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    Message de mel2401 posté le 10-10-2012 à 23:22:29
    Hello,

    Zombie – The Cramberries
    We have chosen to present a song of the Cranberries so we 're gonna speak about one of their most famous song named Zombie.

    Introduction :

    First of all, this song was written by Dolores O'Riordan, the singer of the band. "Zombie" is a protest song by The Cranberries from the 1994 album. It laments the troubles in Northern Ireland and in particular the killing of two children in a Provisional Irish Republican Army bombing in Warrington, England. This song met great success in many countries, including France, where it topped the charts.

    I - The band :

    The Cranberries are an Irish rock band formed in Limerick in 1989. The group was one of the most successful rock acts of the '90s and sold over 15 million albums in the United States alone.

    The composition of the band has never evolved to include four members: the singer and the author : Dolores O'Riordan, the two guitarists Noel and Mike Hogan and the drummer : Fergal Lawler. The commitment of the band reflects his political stance (as in Bosnia or Zombie who oppose civil wars), patriotism or revolt (Icicle Melt is a hymn against abortion). Devout Catholic, Dolores O'Riordan has been exposed to a lot of criticism because of his traditionalists positions. In the journal Rock & Folk, she told a journalist being favorable to death penalty.

    II – The song :

    The first single “Zombie” from the No Need To Argue album, being the song that has made The Cranberries world-famous, was written while touring the England in 1993 when there was a big eruption of trouble between Northern Ireland and London. The subject of the composition is man’s cruelty towards other men, especially children. The singer said that things were gnawing at her about the whole bombings thing and the way kids are treated

    Zombie was written in 1993 in memory of two boys, Jonathan Ball and Tim Parry, who were killed during the terrorist attack in the IRA Warrington, March 20, 1993. "Zombie" is a Plea against violence in Ireland written by this group of Limerick, inspired by the drama of Warrington where two young boys were killed when a bomb that the IRA had placed in a bin at downtown. The group does not belong to one side or the other, comparing the belligerents along each side of zombies and stigmatizing violence that silenced the reason and humanity. 1916 refers to the Easter Rising which marked the real beginning of the armed conflict between Irish republicans and the Crown, which will last for 90 years first on the ground in the struggle for the independence of the Republic of Ireland and for attachment of Ulster rest of the country.

    For one of the two children, his life was taken in the arm’s of his mother. She was shopping in London, and there was a bomb planted in a rubbish bin, so he happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time and he died. The reason the bomb was planted was because of a political territorial kind of thing that goes on in the North of Ireland and the UK. So the references to 1916 was when a contract was signed, which signed away the 6 counties to England. And it still goes on today: the war, the deaths, and the injustice.

    III - The lyrics :

    Dolores is against the IRA saying that their acts are for the good of Ireland: When she says in the song,”It’s not me, it’s not my family”, she is not talking about Ireland, but just about some idiots living in the past or living for a dream. She knows that they have their problems up there, but there was no reason why that children should have been taken. That's the reason why she decided to write this song, to show the injustice that some acts present for people.

    Indeed the key word in the song takes its full meaning. The "zombies" are children who have not seen anything other than the violence of the conflict in Northern Ireland and are conditioned to violence. But we can also associate them with soldiers, who by definition obey orders, and therefore does not reflect, such as "zombies."This is the group share a critique of the British Army, referring for example to the various times the soldiers fired into the crowd of demonstrators Catholics. Images of children and those soldiers are not unlike those of urban guerrilla warfare.
    The parallel between the children and the soldiers is very clear, children are dirty, play with strong violence, one of them is perhaps even death at the end of the clip, which opens on a close-up a child and closes in the same way.

    IV – The video clip :
    The close-ups of the singer at these times highlight the importance of feelings, and especially his pain, recovery in music by a slow tempo and melancholy, and as explained in the words that felt after the loss of a child, which had become almost commonplace thing in this conflict. This idea is also in the use of the word "zombie" in the song, which, combined with "in your head" (in your head), can be explained by the death of children that continues to haunt the thoughts of their family, like zombies.

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    Modifié par mel2401 le 10-10-2012 23:23

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    Modifié par lucile83 le 11-10-2012 08:55
    Formules de politesse inexistantes, sujet non présenté,copie de Wikipedia


    Réponse: Correction / chanson de gerondif, postée le 10-10-2012 à 23:40:11
    Bonjour,
    extrait de wikipedia:
    "Zombie" is a protest song by the Irish rock band The Cranberries from the 1994 album No Need to Argue. The song, which laments The Troubles in Northern Ireland and in particular the killing of two children in an IRA bombing in Warrington, England, was written by Dolores O'Riordan, singer of the band. This song met great success in many countries, including France, Belgium, Austria, Australia, Finland, Germany and Canada where it topped the charts.

    The Cranberries are an Irish rock band formed in Limerick in 1989. The band consists of vocalist Dolores O'Riordan, guitarist Noel Hogan, bassist Mike Hogan and drummer Fergal Lawler. Although widely associated with alternative rock, the band's sound also incorporates indie pop, post-punk, Irish folk and pop rock elements.[1]

    The Cranberries rose to international fame in the 1990s with their debut album, Everybody Else Is Doing It, So Why Can't We?, which became a commercial success and sold over five million copies in the United States. The group was one of the most successful rock acts of the '90s and sold over 15 million albums in the United States alone.

    Bien, vous ne dites pas bonjour, vous nous donnez des copiés collés en anglais correct, il n'y a rien que je puisse faire pour vous sur cette partie,

    Pour la suite:

    I - The band :

    The Cranberries are an Irish rock band formed in Limerick in 1989. The group was one of the most successful rock acts of the '90s and sold over 15 million albums in the United States alone.

    The composition of the band has never evolved to include four members: the singer and the author : Dolores O'Riordan, the two guitarists Noel and Mike Hogan and the drummer : Fergal Lawler. The commitment of the band reflects his political stance (as in Bosnia or Zombie who oppose civil wars), patriotism or revolt (Icicle Melt is a hymn against abortion). Devout Catholic, Dolores O'Riordan has been exposed to a lot of criticism because of his traditionalists positions. In the journal Rock & Folk, she told a journalist being favorable to the death penalty.

    II – The song :

    The first single “Zombie” from the No Need To Argue album, being the song that has made The Cranberries world-famous, was written while touring the England in 1993 when there was a big eruption of trouble between Northern Ireland and London. The subject of the composition is man’s cruelty towards other men, especially children. The singer said that things were gnawing at her about the whole bombings thing and the way kids are treated

    Zombie was written in 1993 in memory of two boys, Jonathan Ball and Tim Parry, who were killed during the terrorist attack in the IRA Warrington, March 20, 1993. "Zombie" is a Plea against violence in Ireland written by this group of Limerick, inspired by the drama of Warrington where two young boys were killed when a bomb that the IRA had placed in a bin at downtown. The group does not belong to one side or the other, comparing the belligerents along each side of zombies and stigmatizing violence that silenced the reason and humanity. 1916 refers to the Easter Rising which marked the real beginning of the armed conflict between Irish republicans and the Crown, which will last for 90 years first on the ground in the struggle for the independence of the Republic of Ireland and for attachment of Ulster rest of the country.

    For one of the two children, his life was taken in the arm’s of his mother. She was shopping in London, and there was a bomb planted in a rubbish bin, so he happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time and he died. The reason the bomb was planted was because of a political territorial kind of thing that goes on in the North of Ireland and the UK. So the references to 1916 was when a contract was signed, which signed away the 6 counties to England. And it still goes on today: the war, the deaths, and the injustice.

    III - The lyrics :

    Dolores is against the IRA saying that their acts are for the good of Ireland: When she says in the song,”It’s not me, it’s not my family”, she is not talking about Ireland, but just about some idiots living in the past or living for a dream. She knows that they have their problems up there, but there was no reason why that children should have been taken. That's the reason why she decided to write this song, to show the injustice that some acts present for people.

    Indeed the key word in the song takes its full meaning. The "zombies" are children who have not seen anything other than the violence of the conflict in Northern Ireland and are conditioned to violence. But we can also associate them with soldiers, who by definition obey orders, and therefore does not reflect(a mirror reflects light !!!), such as (mauvais choix pour "comme")zombies."This is the group share a critique (construction)of the British Army, referring for example to the various times the soldiers fired into the crowd of (demonstrators Catholics(ordre des mots)). Images of children and those soldiers are not unlike those of urban guerrilla warfare.
    The parallel between the children and the soldiers is very clear, children are dirty, play with strong violence, one of them is perhaps even death at the end of the clip, which opens on a close-up of a child and closes in the same way.

    IV – The video clip :
    The close-ups of the singer at these times highlight the importance of feelings, and especially his pain, recovery in music by a slow tempo and melancholy, and as explained in the words that felt after the loss of a child, which had become almost commonplace thing in this conflict. This idea is also in the use of the word "zombie" in the song, which, combined with "in your head" (in your head), can be explained by the death of children that continues to haunt the thoughts of their family, like zombies.


    Réponse: Correction / chanson de notrepere, postée le 10-10-2012 à 23:47:43
    Hello

    Quelques erreurs proviennent il me semble d'une traducteur en ligne...

    The composition of the band has never evolved to include four members )(there are four members in the band, I don't understand what you mean): the singer and the author : Dolores O'Riordan, the two guitarists Noel and Mike Hogan and the drummer : Fergal Lawler. The commitment of the band reflects his political stance (as in Bosnia or Zombie who oppose civil wars), patriotism or revolt (Icicle Melt is a hymn against abortion). Devout Catholic, Dolores O'Riordan has been exposed to a lot of criticism because of his traditionalists positions. In the journal Rock & Folk, she told a journalist being favorable to death penalty(maladroit).

    The first single “Zombie” from the No Need To Argue album, being the song that has made The Cranberries world-famous, was written while touring the(la traducteur met l'article du français) England in 1993 when there was a big eruption of trouble between Northern Ireland and London. The subject of the composition is man’s cruelty towards other men, especially children. The singer said that things were gnawing at her about the whole bombings thing and the way kids are treated.

    Zombie was written in 1993 in memory of two boys, Jonathan Ball and Tim Parry, who were killed during the terrorist attack in the IRA Warrington(quelque chose ne va pas), March 20, 1993. "Zombie" is a Plea against violence in Ireland written by this group of Limerick, inspired by the drama of Warrington where two young boys were killed when a bomb that the IRA had placed in a bin at downtown.(Vous avez déjà exprimé ce fait) The group does not belong to one side or the other, comparing the belligerents along each side of zombies and stigmatizing violence that silenced the reason and humanity(Je ne comprends pas). 1916 refers to the Easter Rising which marked the real beginning of the armed conflict between Irish republicans and the Crown, which would last for 90 years first on the ground in the struggle for the independence of the Republic of Ireland and for attachment of Ulster rest of the country (cet extrait est maladroit).

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    Modifié par notrepere le 10-10-2012 23:48
    Hello gerondif, I was thinking that the translation was a little "too good" in some places. Another waste of time, it seems. I think students should earn our help through good behaviour .



    Réponse: Correction / chanson de mel2401, postée le 11-10-2012 à 00:25:48

    Bonsoir, avant tout, merci pour vos réponses, elle m'ont bien aidées. Cependant certaines erreurs restent incomprises :


    Introduction :
    First of all, this song was written by Dolores O'Riordan, the singer of the band. "Zombie" is a protest song by The Cranberries from the 1994 album. It laments the troubles in Northern Ireland and in particular the killing of two children in a Provisional Irish Republican Army bombing in Warrington, England. This song met great success in many countries, including France, where it topped the charts.

    I - The band :
    The Cranberries are an Irish rock band formed in Limerick in 1989. The group was one of the most successful rock acts of the '90s and sold over 15 million albums in the United States alone.

    The band is composed of four members: the singer and the author : Dolores O'Riordan, the two guitarists Noel and Mike Hogan and the drummer : Fergal Lawler. The commitment of the band reflects its political stance (as in Bosnia or Zombie which oppose civil wars), patriotism or revolt (Icicle Melt is a hymn against abortion). Devout Catholic, Dolores O'Riordan has been exposed to a lot of criticism because of her traditionalist positions. In the journal Rock & Folk, she told a journalist to be for the death penalty.

    II – The song :
    The first single “Zombie” from the No Need To Argue album, being the song that has made The Cranberries world-famous, was written while touring England in 1993 when there was a big eruption of trouble between Northern Ireland and London. The subject of the composition is man’s cruelty towards other men, especially children. The singer said that things were gnawing at her about the whole bombing thing and the way kids are treated

    Zombie was written in 1993 and is a Plea against violence in Ireland written by this group of Limerick, inspired by the drama of Warrington in March 20, 1993 where two young boys Jonathan Ball and Tim Parry were killed during the terrorist attack from the IRA when a bomb have been placed in a bin at downtown. However, the group does not belong to one side or the other, comparing the belligerents along each side to zombies and stigmatizing violence. 1916 refers to the Easter Rising which marked the real beginning of the armed conflict between Irish Republicans and the Crown, which would last for 90 years first on the ground in the struggle for the independence of the Republic of Ireland and for attachment of Ulster rest of the country. (je ne vois pas comment mettre autrement)

    For one of the two children, his life was taken in the arms of his mother. She was shopping in London, and there was a bomb planted in a rubbish bin, so he happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time and he died. The reason the bomb was planted was because of a political territorial kind of thing that goes on in the North of Ireland and the UK. So the reference to 1916 was when a contract was signed, which signed away the 6 counties to England. And it still goes on today: war, deaths, and injustice.

    III - The lyrics :
    Dolores is against the IRA saying that their acts are for the good of Ireland: When she says in the song,”It’s not me, it’s not my family”, she is not talking about Ireland, but just about some idiots living in the past or living for a dream. She knows that they have their problems up there, but there was no reason why that children should have been taken. That's the reason why she decided to write this song, to show the injustice that some acts present for people.

    Indeed the key word in the song takes its full meaning. The "zombies" are children who have not seen anything other than the violence of the conflict in Northern Ireland and are conditioned to violence. But we can also associate them with soldiers, who by definition obey orders, and therefore does not reflect, such as "zombies."This is a critique from the group share of the British Army, referring for example to the various times the soldiers fired into the crowd of Catholic demonstrators. Images of children and those soldiers are not unlike those of urban guerrilla warfare.
    The parallel between the children and the soldiers is very clear, children are dirty, play with strong violence, one of them is perhaps even died at the end of the clip, which opens on a close-up of a child and closes in the same way.

    IV – The video clip :
    The close-ups of the singer at these times highlight the importance of feelings, and especially his pain, recovery in music by a slow tempo and melancholy, and as explained in the words after the loss of a child, which had become almost commonplace thing in this conflict. This idea is also in the use of the word "zombie" in the song, which, combined with "in your head" (in your head), can be explained by the death of children that continues to haunt the thoughts of their family, like zombies




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