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Mon Zandvoort A Handbook of English Grammar me dit:
The genitive plural:
Nouns denoting time MAY occur in the genitive plural, though the apostrophe is not always written (or printed).
Ex.: We had (a) five minutes’ talk before breakfast.
It’s nearly two hours’ walk.
He owed me several months’ rent.
In ten or twenty years time. (sans apostrophe) (et sans tirets dans aucun des exemples)
The alternative construction (a ten-mile walk, a five-minute walk) differs from (above) in being, as a rule, more distinctly classifying (i.e. it denotes a kind of talk).
Names of measures or values MAY occur in the genitive plural if they are followed by a headword related in meaning. The apostrophe is sometimes omitted.
Ex.: a hundred yards’ distance
Thirty shillings’ value
A thirty miles walk.
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De mes cours à l’univ, j‘ai retenu que pour les mots ‘minutes’, ‘hours’, ‘miles’ utilisés comme demandé dans l’exercice de bernard, on les laissait au pluriel. Comme exception à la règle générale.
Je dirais donc (et je trouve que ça sonne mieux) :
4 a fifteen minutes’ break
6 a two hours’ flight
8 a two years contract
10 a five days’ week
11 a six miles’ walk
Mais peut-être est-ce trop fouillé pour l’exercice demandé, auquel cas le singulier sera considéré comme bon.
Par contre, pas d'alternative pour:
7 It was a five-course meal.
Modestement
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Modifié par lamy le 27-06-2010 22:51
Réponse: Exercises/Noun + noun to check de lucile83, postée le 28-06-2010 à 08:11:29 (S | E)
Bonjour lamy,
Vos précisions sont très intéressantes mais vous déplacez le sujet sur le cas possessif alors que l'exercice était construit autour des mots composés.
Les deux constructions sont possibles en effet mais on ne peut pas modifier la structure d'un exercice
Bonne journée.
Réponse: Exercises/Noun + noun to check de bernard02, postée le 28-06-2010 à 16:51:36 (S | E)
Bonjour à toutes et à tous,
voici donc la version définitive que je vais rendre dans environ 1 heure:
- What do we call these things and people? Use the structure noun + noun.
2 A magazine about computers is a computer magazine.
3 Photographs taken on you holiday are your holiday photographs.
4 Chocolate made with milk is milk chocolate.
5 Somebody whose job is to inspect factories is a factory inspector.
6 A hotel in central London is a central London hotel.
7 The results of your examinations are your examination results.
8 The carpet in the dining room is the dining-room carpet.
9 A scandal involving a football club is a football-club scandal.
10 A question that has two parts is a two-part question.
11A girl who is seven years old is a seven-year-old girl.
=> one hyphen in the 8, 9, 10, and two in the 11, without s.
Write the correct word for each picture. Each word has two parts and these are given above the pictures. In 1a for example, you must decide whether the word is boathouse or houseboat.
boat/house horse/race card/phone
(picture 1a: péniche aménagée pour y vivre) → It's a houseboat.
(1b: un garage à bateau) → It's a boathouse.
(2a: un cheval de course) → It's a race-horse.
(2b: une course de chevaux) → It's a horse-race.
(3a: un téléphone à carte) → It's a card phone.
(3b: une carte téléphonique) → It's a phone card.
Answer the questions using two of the following words each time:
accident belt card credit editor forecast newspaper number road room seat shop weather window
2 If you're staying at a hotel, you need to remember this. Your room number.
3 You should wear this when you're in a car. A seat belt.
4 You can sometimes use this to pay for things instead of cash. A credit card.
5 If you want to know if it's going to rain, you can read or listen to this. The weather forecast.
6 This person is a top journalist. A newspaper editor.
7 You might stop to look in this when you're walking along a street. A shop window.
Complete the sentences using one of the following:
15 minute(s) 60 minute(s) two hour(s) five day(s) two year(s) 500 year(s) six mile(s) 20 pound(s) five course(s) ten page(s) 450 page(s)
Sometimes you need the singular (day/page etc.) and sometimes the plural (days/pages etc.).
3 I didn't have any change. I only had a twenty-pound note.
4 At work in the morning. I usually have a fifteen-minute break for coffee.
5 There are sixty minutes in an hour.
6 It's only a two-hour flight from London to Madrid.
7 It was a big meal. There were five courses.
8 Mary has just started a new job. She's got a two-year contract.
9 The oldest building in the city is the five-hundred-year-old castle.
10 I work five days a week. Saturday and Sunday are free.
11 We went for a six-mile walk in the country.
Réponse: Exercises/Noun + noun to check de notrepere, postée le 28-06-2010 à 17:29:57 (S | E)
Bonne chance, Bernard!Lamy, those may be "valid", but no one I know speaks or writes like that! For instance, try saying these out loud:
Let's go take a fifteen minutes' break!
Wow, I'm sure glad we don't have a nine days' week!
The main problem here, and the reason you don't hear this much, is that you can't indicate an apostrophe (in this case anyways) when speaking. So it just sounds like an error. And the use of apostrophes is frowned upon in formal written English.
Je commence à détester cette petite apostrophe!
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Modifié par notrepere le 28-06-2010 23:52
Réponse: Exercises/Noun + noun to check de lucile83, postée le 28-06-2010 à 22:22:30 (S | E)
Hello bernard,
Comme vous avez bien rectifié la 5 et la 7 du 1er exercice tout doit être ok !
Hope so
Réponse: Exercises/Noun + noun to check de bernard02, postée le 30-06-2010 à 03:39:23 (S | E)
Bonjour à toutes et à tous,
je vous remercie encore car j'ai rendu ces exercices lundi, après les avoir seulement modifiés en fonction de vos réponses (et comme je vous l'ai écrit dans mon post précédent). Il en résulte que j'ai obtenu un "sans faute" sur l'ensemble de ces exercices.
Cependant, selon notre professeur, les tirets sont facultatifs pour dining-room et football-club (8 et 9 de l'exercice 1), pour race-horse et horse-race (2a et 2b de l'exercice 2): "on peut laisser un blanc", et "il ne faut pas de tiret entre five et hundred" dans l'expression five-hundred-year-old castle (9 du dernier exercice).
C'était le dernier cours de mon année scolaire (je ne pensais plus qu'à mon âge je serais encore lié aux périodes scolaires !).
Maintenant, je pense que je vais devoir entretenir un peu mon Anglais pendant ces "vacances"
, en utilisant un peu plus les exercices du site, par exemple.Best regards.
Cordialement.
Réponse: Exercises/Noun + noun to check de notrepere, postée le 30-06-2010 à 04:21:10 (S | E)
Good job, Bernard. 
Good luck with your future studies. You are always welcome to post a message on the forum if you have trouble with one of the exercises on the site.
At the very least it might create some type of controversy that will take at least two pages to answer!
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Modifié par notrepere le 30-06-2010 06:51
Réponse: Exercises/Noun + noun to check de lucile83, postée le 30-06-2010 à 07:29:39 (S | E)
bernard ! the 2 pages are due to the fact that we are talkative
Best wishes!
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