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    Commentaire civilisation américaine (1)

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    Commentaire civilisation américaine
    Message de aby19728 posté le 25-03-2009 à 16:33:20 (S | E | F)

    bonjour, quelqu'un pourrait me corriger ce commentaire? PLEASE.MERCI


    1) This article from the International Herald Tribune is about the election for president of November 2, 2004, which Americans people had to choose between the candidate Republican, George W. Bush, and the candidate Democrat, John Kerry.
    This article appeared one week after the election, who the winner was the Republican George W. Bush.
    It deals with this spectacular election and especially with the problem of Electoral College system.
    This article did not sign which probably it is an editorial that represents the viewpoint of the newspaper. In fact, Bush’s victory seems to upset the author, who seems to be in favour of the Democrat Party.



    2) The Electoral College denotes the whole of electors (representatives of the Americans people) put in charge of electing the president. They meet in the capital of their respective state on Mondays, which follows the second Wednesday of December, and vote separately for the president where each Political Party appoints their lists of electors.
    This College is constituted of 538 electors elected in universal suffrage in each State.(There are among the 538 electors 100 elected on the senate, 435 on the chamber of representatives, 3 for the federal district of Columbia).


    This system may be unfair when it says that the ticket that obtains the great number of suffrages receive the totality of the electors. In clear, the candidate who will have the most states will be the president.

    While as one can see, some states are less inhabited than other are.
    The United States seems to be divided into two areas, the areas densely populated (California, New York) and the areas sparsely populated (Kansas, Iowa).

    The author talks about an unfairness because the election of George w. bush was determined by rural areas votes that means the election was determined by a minority of the population of a large country while usually the election of president must be the choice of the majority of the population. « It’s very important to have a president who is the popular choice. » l.12-13

    The other unfairness of the Electoral College system is about the lack of attention of American politicians toward rural areas.
    Effectively, even the president acknowledged that « if the election was determined by the population vote nationwide, rural areas would never get any attention » (l.23-24).
    The author calls into question the Electoral College system. The system deprives as in this case a segment of the population of power. In fact, the majority of the population has been deprived of power when Bush won because of not the popular vote nationwide but because of the rural areas votes.

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    Modifié par lucile83 le 25-03-2009 16:46
    orthographe titre


    Réponse: Commentaire civilisation américaine de hugotachini, postée le 25-03-2009 à 17:52:31 (S | E)
    1) This article from the International Herald Tribune is about the election for the of the president of in November 2, 2004, which where Americans people had to choose between the candidate Republican, George W. Bush, and the candidate Democrat, John Kerry.
    This article appeared one week after the election, who In wich the winner was the Republican George W. Bush.
    It deals with this spectacular election and especially with the problem of the Electoral College system.
    This article did not wasn't signed which makes it probably it is an editorial that represents the viewpoint of the newspaper the newspaper's point of view. In fact, Bush’s victory seems to upset the author, who seems to be in favour of the Democrat Party.

    2) The Electoral College denotes the whole of electors (representatives of the Americans people) put who are in charge of electing the new president. They meet in the capital of their respective state on Mondays, which follows the second Wednesday of December, and vote separately for the president where each Political Party appoints their lists of electors.
    This College is constituted of is contained 538 electors elected in universal suffrage in each State.(There are among the 538 electors 100 elected on the senate, 435 on the chamber of representatives, 3 for the federal district of Columbia).


    This system may be unfair when it says that the ticket that obtains the great number of suffrages votes receives the totality of the electors. In clear, the candidate who will have gets the most states will be becomes the president.

    While as one can see, some states are less inhabited populated than other are others.
    The United States seems to be divided into two areas, the areas densely populated (California, New York) and the areas sparsely populated (Kansas, Iowa). the very populated ares like California or NY and the lower populated sectors like Kansas or Iowa.
    The author talks about an unfairness because the election of George w. bush was determined by rural areas votes that wich means the that the election was determined by a minority of the population of a large country while usually the election of a president must be the choice of the majority of the population. « It’s very important to have a president who is the popular choice. » l.12-13

    Voir IIème partie ->


    Réponse: Commentaire civilisation américaine de aby19728, postée le 26-03-2009 à 00:08:48 (S | E)
    THANK YOU SOOO MUCH HUGOTACHINI.


    Réponse: Commentaire civilisation américaine de brettdallen, postée le 26-03-2009 à 00:36:10 (S | E)
    Bonsoir,
    Je propose quelques modifications, même si l'essentiel est tout à fait acceptable..


    1) This article from the International Herald Tribune is about the election for president("presidential elections") of November 2, 2004, which ("in which")Americans("American") people had to choose between the candidate Republican(ordre des mots), George W. Bush, and the candidate Democrat(ordre des mots), John Kerry.
    This article appeared(d'accord, ou "came out", was issued") one week after the election,(point) who(donc, ce n'est plus nécessaire)(autre chose: vous pouviez intégrer cette information dans l'introduction! "Cet article du I.H.T qui a été publié 1 semaine après...", vous auriez donc fait l'économie du rappel des événements et ainsi introduit le sujet) the winner was the Republican George W. Bush.
    It deals with this spectacular election and especially with the problem of (the)Electoral College system.
    (This article did not sign(an article doesn't sign!) which? probably it is an editorial that represents the viewpoint of the newspaper)(c'est confus). In fact, Bush’s victory seems to upset the author, who seems to be in favour of the Democrat Party.
    La suite arrive..



    Réponse: Commentaire civilisation américaine de brettdallen, postée le 26-03-2009 à 00:59:56 (S | E)
    Bonsoir,
    Je poursuis...(c'était un long texte)


    2) The Electoral College denotes?(represents?) the whole of electors (representatives of the Americans! people) put("who are ") in charge of electing the president. They meet in the capital of their respective state on Mondays("a Monday"), which follows the second Wednesday of December, and vote separately for the president where each Political Party appoints their lists of electors.(la phrase me semble trop longue et difficile à comprendre.. en anglais, on fait plus de coupes qu'en français, pensez-y!)
    This College is constituted of 538 electors elected in("by") universal suffrage in each State.(There are among the"Among these" 538 electors, 100(are) elected on("at") the senate, 435 on ("at")the chamber of representatives, 3 for("at") the federal district of Columbia).


    This system may be unfair when it says that("because") the ticket that obtains ("gets"?)the great(highest?) number of suffrages receive(s) the totality of the electors. In clear, the candidate who will have the most states will be the president.

    While as one can see, some states are less inhabited than other are(inutile).
    The United States seems to be divided into two areas, the areas densely populated (California, New York) and the areas sparsely populated (Kansas, Iowa).

    The author talks about an unfairness(d'accord, ou "considers it is unfair") because the election of George w. bush was determined by rural areas votes that(", which") means the election was determined(répétition") by a minority of the population of a large country (utile?)while usually(justement non!) the election of president must(choisissez le modal qui dit: selon la logique, les choses devraient se passer ainsi) be the choice of the majority of the population. « It’s very important to have a president who is the popular choice. » l.12-13

    The other unfairness of the Electoral College system is about the lack of attention of American politicians toward rural areas.
    Effectively(d'accord, ou "Indeed"), even the president acknowledged that « if the election was determined by the population vote nationwide, rural areas would never get any attention » (l.23-24).
    The author calls into question the Electoral College system. The system deprives as in this case? a segment of the population of power. In fact, the majority of the population has been deprived (vous vous répétez)of power when Bush won(not because) because of not (non!!)the popular vote nationwide but because of the rural areas votes.

    J'espère que cela vous fera réfléchir et vous aidera...



    Réponse: Commentaire civilisation américaine de aby19728, postée le 27-03-2009 à 20:30:12 (S | E)
    bonsoir,
    merci bien a tout le monde.


    Réponse: Commentaire civilisation américaine de TravisKidd, postée le 27-03-2009 à 22:43:16 (S | E)
    One question: why do you say that rural areas receive less attention? In fact the representation of rural states is greater in the Electoral College than it would be in a strict popular vote.

    By the way, you may not know this, but the Legislature of each state may choose its members of the Electoral College however it wishes; it just so happens that every state has chosen to allow the people to choose those members in the general election.



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